The Town of Mooresville has asked Kenneth J. Andrews, a retired polygraph specialist with the FBI, to conduct the internal investigation into Police Chief John Crone’s handling of the police department’s Cops for Kids program.
Andrews, who over a 22-year career with the FBI worked in the bureau’s Minneapolis, Cleveland, and Charlotte field offices, has lived in Denver, N.C. since 2002.
For background information on Ken Andrews, click here: http://marketcenter.findlaw.com/scripts/display_profile.pl?id=117465
Meanwhile, 22nd Prosecutorial District Attorney Garry Frank was expected to contact the State Bureau of Investigation (SBI) last Wednesday to launch the external investigation into Cops for Kids, and the SBI has apparently since been in contact with Maj. Carl Robbins, who is serving as interim police chief while Crone is suspended with pay pending the investigations’ results.
At the same time, the town’s finance department, as of Friday, is looking for two different forensic accounting specialists to conduct the audit of Cops for Kids. The town as of Friday was still awaiting information from Cops for Kids’ bank accounts to submit to those accounting firms once they’ve been selected.
It is unclear when any of the investigations will officially begin, but the town maintains they should begin soon.
The town is also expected to delay an evidence-room inventory until after the SBI has been in contact about “proper procedure.”
At the Police Department, Robbins told town staffers in an e-mail on Friday that he has personally spoken with every police department employee except those who were on vacation or in school. Everyone was told that Crone has been placed on paid administrative leave and that Robbins was appointed acting chief. “I told them I had no idea if or when (Crone) would be able to return,” Robbins wrote in the e-mail.
He said that he instructed all police personnel to direct any media questions to Town Attorney Steve Gambill and not to comment on Crone’s disciplinary status or the investigations.
Robbins briefly explained the scope of the dual investigations: “One will probe into the administrative side and will be conducted by an independent investigator and the other by the (SBI) into any possible criminal wrongdoing,” Robbins stated in the e-mail. “The Cops for Kids financial records and the evidence room are focal points of the investigation.”
He told police staff that “there is no firm timetable for either (investigation)” but that they should “be prepared for weeks or months.”
Robbins stated that “everyone should be cooperative, honest and open,” and he “reminded everyone to accommodate the investigators and staff from the Town to make their efforts as efficient as possible.
“I told everyone to stay focused on our mission because that is a constant during uncertain times,” Robbins continued in the e-mail. “Through it all, we must remember to provide a safe community for citizens and visitors alike.
“Each employee was reminded not to speculate or engage in discussions with the public about the allegations since we need the facts,” Robbins stated. “We also need to give the investigators time to conduct a thorough and impartial investigation.”
Robbins said that he also told the officers and civilian staff that “it was their choice if they wanted to contact the Chief. I also reminded them that the Chief had been responsible for many improvements in our Department including our building and we should keep him and his family in our thoughts and prayers no matter what one’s opinion may be.
“Since we are under increased scrutiny,” Robbins continued, “everyone was asked to go the extra mile in dealing with anyone they had contact with during their shifts (treat them like you want your mother treated under similar circumstances).
“In closing,” Robbins said, “I took time to tell them how proud I was of them and that I would be depending on them and I valued their opinions and input.”
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This is to the town of Mooresville Town council and police department.
I DARE YOU TO NOT ARREST HIM RIGHT NOW.
I dont think anyone in Mooresville has a proper appreciation of the seriousness of what is happening here with my comments on this blog in relation to NC GS 14-100 to arrest crone, and arrest him now.
I bet Jamie and the town atty. already know what I am refering too and if they dont, they should keep looking, but I would not take to long if I were you all.
Equal protection
equal protection: an overview
The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits states from denying any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. See U.S. Const. amend. XIV. In other words, the laws of a state must treat an individual in the same manner as others in similar conditions and circumstances. A violation would occur, for example, if a state prohibited an individual from entering into an employment contract because he or she was a member of a particular race. The equal protection clause is not intended to provide "equality" among individuals or classes but only "equal application" of the laws. The result, therefore, of a law is not relevant so long as there is no discrimination in its application. By denying states the ability to discriminate, the equal protection clause of the Constitution is crucial to the protection of civil rights. See Civil Rights.
Generally, the question of whether the equal protection clause has been violated arises when a state grants a particular class of individuals the right to engage in an activity yet denies other individuals the same right. There is no clear rule for deciding when a classification is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court has dictated the application of different tests depending on the type of classification and its effect on fundamental rights.
I suggest you act and act quickly.
Oh great. This is all we need. To get a federal lawsuit slapped against us because of Crone and that worthless shield of his, the supposed "manager". Together they've been living off of this town for 40 years (Crone for 10, Smith for 30). Enough is enough. I'm sick of this scourge of unpunished white collar crime in Mooresville. I'm with the "NC GS 14-100" guy AND the "Vigil" guy. Arrest Crone and fire Smith.
John Crone is being very unfairly thrown under the bus. He is a good and decent man. I am worried that in a race to get a pulitzer, the journalists are speeding right past a man's good name in an effort to nail someone to the wall.
John has come to the aid of people I know in a very selfless way and never once asked for any limelight or compensation. When this is all over, the biggest challange John is going to have is to find forgiveness in his heart for peole wishing to hang him at the town hall. This reminds me of Arlo Guthrie's 'Alice's Restaurant'. Is John a perfect man? Surely not. Who among us is? Is he a good, moral and decent man? You can bet your life he is. Journalist will always behave the way they are behaving - but the town of Mooresville should have people with more spine because now is the time for people to defend him. In his hour of need. I cleary am reminded - in the 1980's when Richard Vinroot was mayor of Charlotte. The news media went after city workers for taking an extra break on their shift. The news made it sound like Watergate. They had video and everything. They went to Vinroot for an 'official comment' and Vinroot, while agreeing the city worker's were wrong - turned the news conference around and went after the journalist for their lousy professionalism.
You seem to be trying to destroy a man's reputation because it makes you feel better. No one on Earth is perfect so John is right there with the rest of us in that regard. I do know for a fact that he is as good a person as anyone reading this post. How about you? How would your life hold up ander such intence public scrutiny. All I am saying here is 'please stop for a moment and think about what you are doing. Dennis Mahon is my name (704-839-6465) and nothing makes me prouder than to defend a good man's (and women's) name.
I'll have to say that I'm quite pleased by the qualifications of the retired FBI agent. Not only does he appear to have the skills necessary, but also the experience.
Based on the available documents for CFK, combined with the various comments made by the chief, and the fact that others within the department have been fired/suspended for similar events, the chief should minimally be placed on non-paid leave until the entire process is concluded. He's admitted to not having required documents in place and to not having proper financial guidelines in place, which are grounds for discipline in and of themselves. If, in fact, he has fired officers for telling lies, then his own statements contradict themselves and constitute a lie, so the same punishment meted out by the chief should be meted out by the interim town manager.
However, would I feel comfortable having him arrested at this point? Honestly, I don't. I know -- an unexpected statement. However, the system has to be given the opportunity to work -- and to work knowing that the public is indeed watching and monitoring. For me to jump on the bandwagon of "arrest him now" would be hypocritical since all along my complaint with him has been that he locked up a particular person without having done an adequate investigation -- really, not having done ANY investigation before making his decision.
I believe in the equality of the law and especially the equal protection and implementation of the laws. Although my experience with the chief has resulted a lack of equity, I hope that the investigations will demonstrate for all of us that the laws will be applied equally to all -- regardless of your status or position.
KUDOS to you Dennis! I disagree with your positin, but stand beside you in your right to share them. Well said, and thank you for voicing your position!
Maj. Robbins’ letter seemed thoughtful and level headed, and of the caliber :) I expect from the leader of our local police.
I’m also impressed with Ken Andrews resume. He seems like just the person for the job.
Scrutiny of public affairs is vital to the role of journalism and I thank Jaime for her persistence. Now is the most important time to be vigilant as we await the results of the investigations. We must pressure our officials to see the investigations to rigorous fruition so that if Chief Crone is innocent there will not be a flicker of doubt, and he may return to office with dignity, and if he is guilty, that he will be punished as one who has betrayed the law he was entrusted to enforce.
I would have to agree with the theory of a good man. But also that a person can seem quite delightful and then you're presented with the complete opposite. If I were to commit a felony then I would be reprimanded for it. If the police chief or anyone else is guilty of a felony they should have the same due process of law everyone else would have. After reading NC GS14-100 felt its definition said the person had to be indicted with sufficient information before being arrested. There are quite a few smoking guns, but our big time politicians don't care. They dont think that a civilian can read public records properly. I think instead of a lie detector test we should try an IQ test. I'm sure some of our fine leaders would have scores that resemble their decisions.
I agree with the last post. Some people keep saying, 'Reserve judgment.' In the meantime, not a single fact reported in the media about mismanaged and misspent money has been refuted. If the media is wrong in its assessment of the public records, someone show us how they are wrong. If it is right, then Crone has to go. It is not a matter of opinion or character or anything else. It is a matter of behavior and accountability and what we will accept from our pubic officials--no matter how good they may be in other settings.
I know many are happy to finally see something being done. I am one of those people as well. However, I smell a rat. I think all of these investigators should hold up and let the SBI step in first and not muddy the water. You may see that in the end the DA is not able to bring charges because too many people got in the way. This could possibly all be in the plan. Just a thought.
John Crone, in his capacity as the Police Chief of our town, and in his capacity as the sole handler of funds of the charity Cops for Kids, transferred cash from the evidence room into Cops for Kids, and he repeated withdrew thousands of dollars in cash from that charity. He then locked up all the records and kept the only key to himself, which he only begrudgingly and partially turned over when he was faced with no other choice. When he was suspended as the result of the inspection of those records, he went on camera and repeatedly contradicted himself, changing his story daily. No fast- talking, blindfold-wearing, guilt-baiting sycophant of his is going to ever change those facts. As much as certain people would like for us all to suspend our logic in order to make life more comfortable for them, we shall not.
to GS 14-100:You seem to know so much about the law so why did you not contact the town and volunteer to be the special investigator. We do live in the USA where our constitution says we are innocent until proven guilty. Lets also remember that a police officer has to have probable cause, look up the definition, before they can make an arrest. Let the forensic accountant review the documents and let the others do thier investigations to determine if a crime has been commited or if poor judgement was used. The last time I checked using poor judgement or being a bad book keeper was not a crime in this country.
Consider the following report by the Tribune:
"Other examples of cash being used came later in 2006 and again in 2007. In December of each year, Cops for Kids paid for the Mooresville Police Department’s holiday banquet for department employees."
"According to an invoice, in 2006, Cops for Kids paid $1,203 to Tasteful Impressions for a 75-person buffet. Payment was made by a check for $600, supplemented by $663 in cash. The $600 check is recorded in the bank statement for that month and in Crone’s balance sheet, but the $663 in cash is not recorded in Crone’s balance sheet. The cash payment is simply noted on the Tasteful Impressions invoice. There is no indication in any of the records as to where the cash came from."
Cops for Kids' records -- the organization's own records! -- show money spent on a holiday meal for cops. This BY ITSELF is grounds for Crone's termination and possible criminal prosecution. (He will be innocent until proven guilty, but he doesn't need to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt before he is charged.)
Dear Mr. Mahon,
You use the analogy in your comment of Charlotte city workers who were scrutinized "for taking an extra break on their shift." Either I misunderstand or you are trying to compare that situation with what we face today in our community with our police chief. I am afraid the analogy is a poorly disproportionate one, considering the facts which have surfaced and remain undisputed.
You then go on to make this accusation: "You seem to be trying to destroy a man's reputation because it makes you feel better." Once again, I can only assume you are referring to anyone, media, citizens and officials alike, who are critical of the police chief's actions.
Although I believe you act out of good intentions, I also believe you are misguided. If I may borrow these words from my memory, you appear to be "blaming the fire on the person who calls 911."
"You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep."
Navajo Proverb
I can say with 100% fact, John Crone and fired or ran off many, many good officers for much less than he has already admitted to on TV. (or at least lied about on public tv)
I will be happy to respond to 11:19
The concept of the presumption of innocence is one of the most basic in our system of justice. However, in so many words, it is not codified in the text of the Constitution. This basic right comes to us, like many things, from English jurisprudence, and has been a part of that system for so long, that it is considered common law. The concept is embodied in several provisions of the Constitution, however, such as the right to remain silent and the right to a jury. Which is what crone should have done and what he will get. I promise.
I would like to respond but I cant, please read the constitution and show me where that is your constitutional right. I can be wrong, but dont count in it in this circumstance
And the other part about probable cause, I would say that admitting guilt on TV, creates probable cause.
But thanks for you comments, I hope I helped. It is not going to change what needs to happen, and as to why I did not call the town, its not my job, my job is to make sure they do there job fairly. I am actually fighting to preserve your constitutional rights, no thanks is needed.
You last thing.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government
Good night, sleep well, justice is upon you.
All these proverbial thoughts and comments. Please, see it for what it is.Crone's going down, and rightfully so. To my knowledge, he's never even answered Jaime regarding the firings and resignations of officers while he was at the helm. Time has come for all our elected officials to make good,sound and honest decisions for the betterment of our city.Our present reputation is aweful, and neighboring communities think our city is a sham and corrupt. In my opinion, they're correct, and we have a long way to go. Erkstine Smith has been lurking behind the scene for 30 Yrs. and must be stopped. With him in the pie,status quo will remain.
I know nothing about what is going on at the Mooresville Police Department. I live in a nearby town and would like to say one thing.
Who ever chose Carl Robbins to be the acting Chief made a GREAT move. He is the most dedicated officer and gentleman that I ever met and I had the privledge of working with him at another PD years ago. He is honest and well respected by the public as well as his fellow officers. He will not ask the other officers to do something that he would not do himself.
Should the current Chief leave his position in what ever way the Town of Mooresville would be wise to go ahead and appoint him Chief of Police. He will put the police department back where it should be well respected and fair to all.
I have called a friend who is on the current staff at the PD and am told that there is a difference from day and night in the past few days since Robbins took over.
Thanks for listening and reading and I have had my say and the best to all the good people of Mooresville and the PD.
Mr. Mahon....
You are absolutely correct. All that D%#@ media wants to do is get pulitzers. The Russians at least had this right.
The Ghost of Richard Nixon
The Supreme Court decision Illinois v. Gates (1983) lowered the threshold of probable cause by ruling that a "substantial chance" or "fair probability" of criminal activity could establish probable cause. A better-than-even chance is not required.
Somewhere else in this blog Dennis Mahon (or people like him) were blaming local activists for the mess we're in. Then they started blaming elected officials who've actually taken a stand against Crone's misconduct. It looks like when blaming activists and officals flopped, they decided to start blaming the media. What will be next? Maybe they can start blaming the investigators next. Anything to keep themselves distracted from the possibility that they have engaged in corruption OR they have supported corruption OR they have been in denial about corruption.
I agree with 7:28am!! Carl Robbins is a great choice for Chief. I too have known him for many years and I have NEVER once heard of him doing anything that was unjust. He's never been involved in any of the scandals and corruptness that has gone on in this town to my knowledge. The officers respect him and only have good things to say about him. I think he would do his best to clean out the dept and would not put up with some of the things that go on there. Go Chief Robbins!!!
I have some very bad news for you folks who are trying to "fight corruption" in Mooresville. Among Chief John Crone's friends is a certain Robin Pendergraft, a/k/a Director of the State Bureau of Investigations of North Carolina (known to you as the great big SBI). She and Crone have been friends for many years, the origination of that friendship some believe started with Joe Knox, former mayor of Mooresville for over 30 years, long enough to build some nice connections and pass those connections along to his inner circle of the Usual Suspects who would do his bidding and the bidding of his chosen ones. Sorry to be the deliverer of this news, but there it is.
It does not matter, he has already admitted guilt on video tape. It would only matter if there is no video tape.
Let them try. The FBI is coming anyway, crone transported stolen money across state lines on his little trips.
All of a sudden it makes sense why Erskine Smith is keeping Crone on the payroll. Any other town manager worth his salt would have fired his ass the day the information came out in the papers about the evidence room and the cash. For Erskine, I guess that all made Crone look even more attractive as a department head. A "grateful" department head is easy to use and control, especially useful if that department head is the police chief. Nice plan Erskine (and whoever else has cooked it up).
Not to mention, money laundering, mail fraud, bank fraud and wire fraud. Who handles those? The SBI? Dont think so.
I DARE the SBI to try and cover up for Crone. Bring it on. There is room enough for everybody in a federal prison, and CNN is always looking for more stories about government sleezoids.
To Mr. Mahon:
No one did THIS to Crone. He did THIS to himself. He finally has to take responsibility for his actions. I hope EVERYONE who is involved in this SCAM/personal piggy bank/gambling fund he called Cops for Kids goes down. Erskine Smith included. They are all glorified scam artists who deserve to rot their asses in jail. I can't wait for the day they take Crone out in cuffs. Wow, wouldn't that make it all full circle; seeing the pathetic excuse for a police chief arrested. God, I hope we get to see it on camera. I would raise my glass for that.
Ya know, John Crone has not been arrested yet it would seem, after I have proven his guilt in regards to NC GS 14-100 for at the very least, the holiday parties and he admitted his guilt on video, that no one would step to the plate and arrest him is beyond me. I told and explained as well yesterday how the equal protection clause is being violated right now and demanded his arrest again. It still has not happened.
John Crone only has his friends to thank for what they are forcing me to do now. I promise you will arrest him. And you will do it right now.
By stealing the identity web site of Cops for Kids inc. based in California John Crone being the decider of his brand of cops for kids is guilty of wire fraud by definition.
The crime of wire fraud is codified at 18 U.S.C. § 1343, and reads as follows:
Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. If the violation affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.
In case you are wondering how it affects a financial institution, talk to the credit union that let him run in a deficit for a year.
Mr. Crone, I have a lot more, do you really want me to continue posting ALL the crimes you have committed and will be found guilty of in a court of law.
As no one seems to have the stones to arrest you, I suggest you turn yourself in today. Should you take my advice I will quit telling and explaining your crimes in public and let the investigators decide what you should be charged with.
Make no mistake, I will not let you walk!
Should you choose to do so, I bet you even get released on your own PR today. I have no problem with that for now. I may not be so nice in the future. Let the process begin today. Be a man!
This is federal crone, and it fits you to a T.
I have many more charges I can level that will bring you hundreds more charges when you to court. Do you really want me to do that. You dont know what you are dealing with here or how deep your crimes go. I do. Be very careful how you choose to respond. You have 48 hours to decide before I post the next crime against your town, your state and your country and worst of all, ME. One thing is for sure, Mr, Crone, this process will start over the same for everyone involved should you not take my advice.
I despise people who think they are above the law, while others sit in prison for the very same thing.
Throw him under the bus? No, I did'nt, but I am about too if he does not do the right thing.
minor drug offenders go directly to jail. They were only hurting themselves. Before you go bashing me a minor drug offender is someone caught with very little of their own poison of choice. The drug dealers go for a little less time and then go back out on the street and sell your babies crack. But we let people with money and power do whatever the hell they want. hmmm... how bout we build a prison and then put Crone and Smith in it. Then we can add to it. We can be the prison system for corrupt and evil minded people. While the government can be the prison for another source of major tax profit.
The modern Rome is burning(AF)
Please do not mistakenly read the term interstate commerce incorrectly.
Well get to the Hobbs act later this week.
Tic Toc - Tic Toc, the clock is running
INTERSTATE COMMERCE - Commerce between any place in a State and any place outside of that State, or within any possession of the United States (not including the Canal Zone) or the District of Columbia, and commerce between places within the same State but through any place outside of that State. 18 U.S.C.
The Hobbs Act provides that '[w]hoever in any way or degree obstructs, delays, or affects commerce or the movement of any article or commodity in commerce, by . .. extortion or attempts or conspires so to do . . . shall be fined . . . or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.' 18 U.S.C. Sec. 1951(a). '[A]n effect on interstate commerce is established by proof of an actual impact, however small, or in the absence of actual impact, by proof of a probable or potential impact.' We have upheld convictions under the Hobbs Act even where the connection to interstate commerce was slight. See, e.g., id. (defendant threatened to deliver embarrassing audio tapes to his victim's employer, a corporation engaged in interstate commerce); U.S. v. Hanigan, 681 F.2d 1127, 1130-31 (9th Cir.'82) (defendant robbed three undocumented alien farm workers, affecting the movement of labor across borders); U.S. v. Phillips, 577 F.2d 495, 501 (9th Cir.'78) (defendant's extortion 'threatened the depletion of resources from a business engaged in interstate commerce'). In U.S. v. Davis, 707 F.2d 880 (6th Cir.'83), the Sixth Circuit upheld the Hobbs Act conviction of a county sheriff who extorted political contributions from his deputies, several of whom received funds from federal programs. The court held that the diversion of these federal funds into the sheriff's political 'war chest' had a sufficient impact on interstate commerce to bring the extortion within the scope of the Hobbs Act. Id. at 884. See U.S. v. Buffey, 899 F.2d 1402, 1405 (4th Cir.'90) (no effect on interstate commerce where the victim, the majority stockholder in a company engaged in interstate commerce, probably would have paid defendant out of personal rather than corporate assets); United States v. Mattson, 671 F.2d 1020, 1025 (7th Cir.'82) (no effect on interstate commerce where the victim paid defendant out of personal assets, even though the victim was employed by a business engaged in interstate commerce); United States v. Blair, 762 F. Supp. 1384, 1394 (N.D.Cal.'91) (no effect on interstate commerce where defendant was paid with personal funds withdrawn from money market account held in a bank engaged in interstate commerce).
WHY in the name of all that's holy is Crone STIL BEING PAID??????????????This could go on for months! I feel if he turns out to be innocent, give him back pay, but get him off our payroll NOW or we'll take care of it at the next election.
Erskine Smith is refusing to put him on unpaid leave. And the board is refusing to fire Smith. On and on it goes. Where it will end up nobody knows.
Word on the street is the RATS are cooking up schemes behind closed doors to keep this thing as “small” as is possible. Be prepared, people, to see some serious tricks being pulled out of the RATS’ sleeves. For those of you who may not be up on the RATS. This is the term used to describe the glorified gang that is made up of the at-large-commissioner Frank Rader, the Ward 4 Commissioner Mitch Abraham, the mayor Bill Thunberg, and the town "manager" Erskine Smith. The RATS still don't get that this entire community is watching them and talking to each other about exactly what they are up to. Now with the blog, we can also tell everybody else. That's how this game is going to be played. The RATS abuse their powers, and we expose it.
To 4:30 P.M.
The only thing that you have proven is that you like to run your mouth. If you have proof that Crone is guilty, grow some "stones" and step up to the plate and present this magic evidence to the SBI or whoever you want. If there is proof and you are in posession of it and you do not turn it in, then you are as guilty as he his. You say you have been knowing of his crimes for 10 years, but you have done nothing until now, how pathetic. What
Crone is accused of is a felony. Warrants have to be drawn up before Law Enforcement can arrest him. When warrants are drawn up, MPD Officers or the SBI will serve (arrest) him and take him to jail. He is not above the law. If you have proof, submit it and put and end to all of this.
I give you 48 hours to turn in any evidence you say you have. If you do not, then shut up. Grow some "stones" and do the right thing. Give the people of Mooresville what they want or shut up. Further more, I despise people that know of wrongdoing and do nothing about it. Do not wait another ten years. Stop threatening to post all his crimes, submit the evidence or shut up!!
Its probably just that idiot DARE officer that got fired still crying over spilled milk.
"Meanwhile, 22nd Prosecutorial District Attorney Garry Frank was expected to contact the State Bureau of Investigation (SBI) last Wednesday to launch the external investigation into Cops for Kids, and the SBI has apparently since been in contact with Maj. Carl Robbins, who is serving as interim police chief while Crone is suspended with pay pending the investigations’ results."
Jesus Christ, Jaime. You've now had over 60,000 hits on your blog. You are smokin' girl. Go get them problem children, round 'em up and put their asses in Time Out!
To 4:30:
Keep "running your mouth." It is making several people very uncomfortable, and they will try everything in their power to shut you up. The rest of us are listening and we want to hear more.
ditto...
Thats good, did your get that off your chest? It is always easier to attack the messenger then it is to pick apart the law, which if you were really a true friend of Mr. Crone is what you would have done. I am not going to stoop to personal attacks on you. But feel free to attack me all you want, I have big shoulders.
Any lawyers in the room, please, please, prove me wrong. Tell me that he did not break in half the state and federal laws I quote. If I am wrong I will admit it and the truth is I hope I am, but just because I want to be wrong does not mean I am.
Another thing, if a man runs out of a bank holding a bag of money and a gun and runs down the block where a TV news crew is standing on live TV and he says, "I robbed the bank" are you seriously telling me, that a cop standing near him needs to go and get a warrant to arrest him. Your going to have to come up with something better then that.
You sound nervous, could that be because you know based on what you have read that I wrote that if Crone does not turn himself in that you might be next on my list of people who took money from kids.
And to the other guy, I am not a police officer, they are much nicer then I am. And if you know what I know about the DARE program.... Better yet, just look up Daryl Gates and see what he says about it.
Please people, pick apart the law. I am begging you folks to prove me wrong.
Thursday, 4:30pm, 48 hours, Tic Toc - Tic Toc Wait till you find out what else he broke.
DARE
Main article: Drug Abuse Resistance Education
In joint collaboration with the Rotary Club of Los Angeles, Gates founded DARE, the Drug Abuse Resistance Education program designed to educate children about the dangers of drug abuse. DARE is currently used in schools worldwide, although scientific research has found it to be ineffective in reducing alcohol or drug use and there is evidence that it may increase drug use among some groups.[1]
Taken from the Town's Municipal Code. I think the interim town manager has failed on all accounts.
The Town Manager shall be responsible to the Board of Commissioners for the proper administration of all the affairs of the Town. In exercising his duties as chief administrator, he shall have the following powers and duties:
(a) He shall appoint and suspend or remove all Town employees, whose appointment or removal is not otherwise provided for by law in accordance with such general personnel rules, regulations, policies, or ordinances as the Board of Commissioners may adopt.
(b) He shall direct and supervise the administration of all departments, offices, and agencies of the Town, subject to the general direction and control of the Board of Commissioners, except as otherwise provided by law.
(c) He shall attend all meetings of the Board of Commissioners and recommend any measures that he deems expedient.
(d) He shall see that all laws of the State, the Town Charter and the ordinances, resolutions, and regulations of the Board of Commissioners are faithfully executed within the Town.
(e) He shall prepare and submit the annual budget and capital program to the Board of Commissioners.
(f) He shall annually submit to the Board of Commissioners and make available to the public a complete report on the finances and administrative activities of the Town as of the end of the fiscal year.
(g) He shall make any other reports that the Board of Commissioners may require concerning the operations of the Town departments, offices, and agencies subject to his direction and control.
(h) He shall perform any other duties that may be required and authorized by the Board of Commissioners
Thanks previous poster. This was my favorite part:
"d) He shall see that all laws of the State, the Town Charter and the ordinances, resolutions, and regulations of the Board of Commissioners are faithfully executed within the Town." That's rich.
Erskine Smith seeing that "all laws of the States...are faithfully executed within the Town" is like a vulture seeing to it that "all decomposing animals be properly buried."
Erskine wouldn't know a "law" if it bit him in the rearend.
DEPRIVATION OF RIGHTS UNDER COLOR OF LAW
Summary:
Section 242 of Title 18 makes it a crime for a person acting under color of any law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States.
For the purpose of Section 242, acts under "color of law" include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official's lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. Persons acting under color of law within the meaning of this statute include police officers, prisons guards and other law enforcement officials, as well as judges, care providers in public health facilities, and others who are acting as public officials. It is not necessary that the crime be motivated by animus toward the race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status or national origin of the victim.
The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any.
TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 242
Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, ... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnaping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death
I thought more about the attack made against me last night on this blog and have decided to give the town council a better idea of what they are up against here and what is coming their way, so put this statute in the context of the equal protection clause and connect the dots.
I take no pleasure in this, I promise you, but the next time someone wants to question MY "stones" while I go after YOUR police chief and quite possibly, several members of YOUR police department and town council, who at the drop of a hat could arrest me for my expressing my constitutional rights for any trumped up charge they want to keep me quite and tucked away in jail, remember this, My "stones" are large, shiny and brass and they clak with the clank of the constitution coming to your town. So to the poster of the attack, why dont you reach down between your legs and grab those chicklets you think are "stones" and see if you can even still make them "tink" and force the arrest of this man.
And to the citizens of Mooresville, I would not suggest you do what I am about to do on Thursday at 4:30
Crone you are running out of time. Tic-Toc Tic-Toc
Welcome to Mooresville. This is where the city's management can steal, cheat, and lie with immunity. Not only that, but they will then turn around and bark at anybody who has the gall to point out their stealing, cheating and lies. But believe me - their bark is louder than their bite. We've gone up against them in the past and they always fall in the end. We are a patient and persevering bunch.
Welcome to Mooresville. The city where every nut job with internet access can praise and kiss the ass of an unemployed, second rate, wanna be journalist.
To 11:00 am.
I believe That Jaime yes is unemployed BUT, she is doing this for no PAY and she is informing YOU that YOUR towns leaders are CORRUPT and are taking money from others! She is FAR from second RATE as you stated,you are an IDIOT. Yet you do not sign your name and you too are a nut job sitting behind your computer reading the un-employed journalist blogs! Grow up.
Mooresville has some serious problems going on here, we have a chief that has abbused his powers numerous times, has taken money after letting everyone believe it was for helping children and the elderly, Now we have a CAPT. That is using his influence to have officers write letters of support of this CROOK. Where were these people when others were FIRED for lesser aligations, as in the DARE officer for the stuffed animals that we read about in an earlier blog. GIVE me a freakin break.
Anne B
Put up a donation page, I'll donate to her so she can continue. Now that would be donations well spent. Amazing.
To 7/16 11:00 a.m. who uses the word "nut" to describe people who compliment Ms. Gatton for her investigative journalism: 1. Where has anybody refuted with any credibility or documentation anything that Ms. Gatton has written in this blog? 2. Just because somebody such as Ms. Gatton chooses to focus on raising her children while carrying on her career doesn't make her a "second rate journalist" and 3. These awards to Ms. Gatton refute your smug little comment (quoting from her home page): "Here are some of my accomplishments from 2004 to 2006: 3rd Place, Investigative Reporting, 2004, from the N.C. Press Association (NCPA) for series of articles titled, "Library director firing controversy." 3rd Place, Community Service Award (the highest honor the NCPA bestows on a community newspaper), 2004, for series on the Mooresville librarian firing controversy. 3rd Place, Investigative Reporting, from the NCPA in 2005 for series on Mooresville's wastewater treatment plant expansion titled "Something stinks in Mooresville." 3rd Place, Community Service Award, from the NCPA in 2005 for "Something stinks in Mooresville” series. June 2005, "Best News Story" MegAward for outstanding journalism at Media General newspapers for "Wastewater costs: Town outspending most." 1st Place, Community Service, from NCPA in 2006, for series titled "Morrison Plantation: A Deadly Intersection." September 2007, "Best News Story" MegAward for outstanding journalism for "No receipts? No problem. Town pays company's bills anyway.'"
So keep trying to shoot the messenger, it looks like it's doing alot of good ! Again: should the Chief of police be transferring money from the evidence room to his personal "charity"? Should the chief of police be removing large amounts of cash from that charity for any purpose? Should police officers be forced to make a decision of whether or not to write a letter of support for the chief when asked to do so by their supervisor? Should the chief continue to be paid a salary when there is a deposit slip into his "charity" that plainly states "loose change from evidence room"? If you have intelligent responses to these questions then perhaps you can contribute something of value to the conversation.
Last time I checked those 2-bit awards dont pay the power bill.
To the person attempting to turn these comments into a personal attack on Jaime Gatton, answer the questions that are relevant and then maybe you'll have some relevancy: should the Chief of police be transferring money from the evidence room to his personal "charity"? Should the chief of police be removing large amounts of cash from that charity for any purpose? Should police officers be forced to make a decision of whether or not to write a letter of support for the chief when asked to do so by their supervisor? Should the chief continue to be paid a salary when there is a deposit slip into his "charity" that plainly states "loose change from evidence room"? This is not about slinging mud or calling people names. It is about public officials being held accountable for their actions, pure and simple. Bottom line: the evidence is what it is, the documents are what they are, the facts lead to one logical conclusion and that conclusion has nothing to do with Jaime Gatton or how she pays her bills. But it does have a lot to do with the integrity of your local government. If you don't care about its integrity, that is your choice. That does not require us to join you in a world of name calling and ad hominen arguments that is simply without any basis in fact.
To 1:24 p.m. what is your evidence that Gatton has a grudge against anyone she has written about? What is the grudge? What is the basis? You have no evidence because Gatton has reported facts and you can't dance around the facts other than by your little petty name calling. Sad, for you. But not for us because we are listening and will not back down. That is why the town is taking proper action--because the people demand it.
1:24,
What is your proof Gatton receives government support, sounds like a cheap shot?
Whats your proof that Crone stole money? I'm not saying that he did or didnt (if he is proven guilty then he should be punished) but all of you are already wanting to put him in Federal Prison. That sounds like a cheap shot. So whats the difference?
The difference is that Crone suspended w/o pay or fired employees for similar allegations lodged against them. Now he gets to be on paid leave? He has already admitted an inability to properly manage the funds. He has already contradicted himself publicly on various TV interviews. Both of those are grounds for dismissal according to the town's personnel policy.
Is he guilty of criminal activity in this particular case? That's an issue for a jury to decide. But based on the handling of other issues by the town, there is some doubt as to whether or not the legal system will be allowed to function properly.
Larry - so you are telling me that the town has a policy that states that one should not contradict him or herself on television? Come on now.
So is the SBI crooked also because they couldnt find anything at the golf course?
I want to put him in Federal Prison, as much for his own protection as for violating federal and state laws hundreds of times.
Thats because he violated federal and state law hundreds of times, and the only way to make sure it gets investigated fairly is for him to turn himself or be arrested on the violation of NC GS 14-100 which he admitted to on television. As of right now, he has not been accused of anything by the legal system. The process must start and will only start with an arrest and I will continue to post the federal and state laws he has violated forcing the federal investigation. They will treat him like anyone else accused of similar crimes or they will get sued for constitutional violations.
They are not doing that, they are trying to cover it up by keeping it local while another person sits in prison for the same thing. I want fairness, nothing more, and I will accept nothing less.
Has he turned himself in yet?
Tic Toc
Well, Article 9, section 3a, defines the term detrimental personal conduct as it pertains to disciplinary action and includes, among others, the following:
19) Intentionally making false statements to a supervisor, department manager, town official, or citizen when such falsification is made in response to a job-related function.
So yes, as it pertains to this particular situation. The Chief has intentionally made false statements regarding various aspects of CFK (incorporation being the most blatant).
Not sure if you're asking me whether or not the SBI is "crooked", but my personal opinion is that most LEO are not crooked and would do anything in their power to assist people.
Boy, "somebody" has been busy on this blog today. Just got home and read the references to "welfare". I can think of at least a couple of people collecting "welfare checks" as we speak. One of them is called Police Chief John Crone. He's sitting at home on his computer collecting his check. The second one is his boss, Interim Town Manager Erskine Smith who has been collecting a welfare check for about thirty years. Combined, they've been on the public's dole to the tune of almost $200,000 per year. What have we got to show for it? Dumb and dumber stumbling over each other trying to clean up a big-time spill called Cops For Kids.
Proof: a photocopy of a page of deposit slips for deposits to an account at the credit union called "John Crone, Cops for Kids". In the middle of the page is a deposit slip for a deposit made in May of 2008 in excess of $300. On the slip is handwritten "loose change from evidence room". In the upper left corner is written "chief". This document was in a stack of documents given to Gatton by the chief himself from a room that was under lock and key and controlled by the chief only. This same document is in the possession of town officials. Proof: Bank statements given to Gatton in the same manner, showing several CASH withdrawals over the years from the same bank accounts in amounts ranging up to $5,000. Proof: a weblink on the police department website that Cops for Kids funds are used for disadvantaged people in the community. Conveniently removed when Gatton began her investigation. Go back and read the articles. And please provide us or the media or the town officials with any possible evidence that could suggest that this was not either a criminal act or at minimum an act of gross mismanagement which should result in the immediate suspension without pay (and ultimate termination) of the police chief. Don't start trying to argue unless you have the facts to support your argument. You will not derail this discussion from the relevant issues. Don't try to convince me or anyone else out here that this was legal or appropriate conduct. At minimum, that money from the evidence room belonged to somebody. It was taken by the chief or someone under his direction and put into an account of which only he had control. As to the cash withdrawals it is wholly inappropriate and likely illegal to remove cash from an account that was accumulated from the charitable donations of a trusting community. Now, if your values say that such an action is appropriate, then it is understandable why you have resulted in personal attacks against Jaime Gatton and the posters on this site who are telling you what the meaning of "is" is.
Out of all that silly rambling that you did, the only thing that holds any weight is the deposit of the change from the evidence room. Dont you really think if he was trying to do something so dishonest that he wouldnt have filled out the deposit ticket like you described it? I have been saying all along that if he is found guilty by a group of his peers then he should be punished, but it seems that some of you are just grasping at straws here.
Just because some people don't have a problem with a police chief using his authority to wrangle donations from the community and then convert them to cash doesn't make it right, whether it is legal or not. Perhaps 5:51 can tell us what is really "silly" about that person's analysis. We can feel your pain 5:51 as you try to rationalize the conduct. And maybe somebody wrote that stuff on the receipt because they never thought anybody would ask to look at the file. Hell, nobody in town management had bothered to ask for over ten years! So, keep those blindfolds on, it will make the ride seem even wilder.
Please stop calling it a charity account, it was not a charity account, it was a for profit business account, under the SSN (not the articles of incorporation and EIN number) of John Crone himself, DBA Cops for Kids. That makes it a for profit business that took in hundreds of thousands of dollars over the course of ten years, and that is only between 10,000 and 20,000 dollars a year, and I bet that is such a low estimate. Probably more like 50,000 per year. 20 years of a for profit business not paying taxes is 1,000,000. or about 300,000 in tax owed because crone did not know what he was doing. (not knowing the law does not help him, ask any lawyer.)With no products being sold other then the "good will" (extortion) of the police department and when I say good will, I mean, give me money and you will get special treatment by me and my officers, I bet they did not even give those phony police stickers to their victims.
But make no mistake, it was a for profit business where John Crone AND his officers went door to door or called by phone and extorted money from them, ie. Hobbs act violation. Also, for every individual attempt to "get" money from a business or resident it is another felony charge, so if you gave him 10 dollars today, 100 next month and 100 in two months, that is 3 individual felony charges of violating NC GS 14-100, now multiply that by the number of people that donated and you will begin to see the shear number of charges we are talking about. It will be hundreds, if not thousands. Every time he or his individual officers even so much as tried to get money from people, they did not even have to get the money, it is another charge. Another hundreds or thousands of felonies for the attempts.
Every officer that made the attempt or succeded in getting the money is also going to be charged with felonies. I bet right now that half of your department if not more are guilty of felonies, and their only hope not to be charged is that they were to stupid to know what Crone was doing. However that is a double edge sword as if you were to stupid to know what is going on then you are too stupid to be a police officer. (sorry to use that word)
No one has any idea what is about to happen to your department because they do not understand NC GS 14-100. It is a vicious vicious law with saber tooth like teeth, I do understand, which is why I brought it up in the first place and why I am forcing a federal investigation and why John Crone, needs to be arrested, right now, his passport needs to be taken, as well as any firearms and his badge. People with this many charges, are prone to flee or commit suicide. I am begging your people to save his life right now.
The town of Mooresville is about to fill its jail, with police officers and town council and think of the problems that is going to cause.It is not going to be safe for any of them. Protect them, I promise you do not understand that law.
Call in the feds NOW, you have no choice in the matter, either you do it, or I force it.
But either way, it is going to happen, get out of denial now while you still can save some of these people.
Everyone in town needs to go to the Town hall ASAP and remove your elected officals. Call towns and counties near you and get there help, this is no joke! This is an emergency and no one seems to be looking at it like that.
The county DA can not be impartial. Neither can the independant investigator who is a "personal friend" He will back out of this when he relizes what is going on. No one will touch this with a ten foot pole.
10 years of fraud people, you can not un-screw this pooch, shes pregnant and she is about to drop.
You can think I am shouting fire in the theater all you want, it is not going to change the outcome, he admitted it on TV. Its over, Save them now!!!!!
BTW, please tell me Crone doesn't still have his keys, gun, badge, and town credit card! Of course, the way his supervisors have been dealing with him, he probably was given an extra one of each.
Sorry cut those numbers in half, 50,000 per year, 10 years, 500,000 = 150,000 in tax
I don't believe he would be punished if he had judges of his peers. Mayor Thunberg, Frank Rader, Mitch Abraham & Erskine Smith would find nothing wrong with the actions of this particular peer of theirs.
Kay
I just read the scurrilous remarks written by a certain person with regard to Ms. Gatton, the author of this blog. I do not know who you are, and I certainly hope you are not someone I know. I will say this to you, however. You should be ashamed of who you are.
I may not know of the specifics of Ms. Gatton's life and life circumstances, but this much I know. She is not under investigation for abusing funds that were given in the name of a charitable organization. As far as I know, she is a private citizen who is exercising her right to hold public officials accountable. Yet you choose to attack her instead of those public officials. Shame on you.
Perhaps the most disturbing facet of this situation for me is that I have an uneasy feeling that you are indeed someone I know, a wolf in sheep's clothing walking amongst us under the cloak of legitimacy, frequenting our churches and town halls.
I have read with great interest the expose relative to the Crone scam, and commend those
who began the investigation and brought it to the attention of the residents of Mooresville.
My concern is the scope of the investigation. It really may be very limited. Seldom do people engage in only one felonious activity if their experience is successful.
I am suggesting you may have discovered the tip of an iceberg. The opportunity for persons with authority to abuse it is almost an historical certainty, if the initial results are gratifying.
Do the tentacles of the culprits reach into other areas of the community? Have favors been granted in return for special considerations? Has physical or mental pressure been used to the benefit of an individual or group?
The support for the expansion of illegal activities may go beyond the Police Department! Does the current Interim Town Manager have a role in defending and/or participating in them? He has, after all, a pattern of questionable performance. Anyone who enjoys the notoriety of constant presence on the Town Golf Course, and accepting pay for that time, pretending he was at work, has the capability to succumb to greater enticements.
DOES the Mayor need to be investigated as a protector of the knaves and scoundrels who infest the very life of the Town? He has historically abused his authority, even before he was elected to his current office, and, enjoys attempts to build a power structure that will benefit him.
HOW BIG IS THE ICEBERG??
I say we get rid of Erskine Smith and give his salary to the person who has been doing his job for the past four months - Jamie Gatton!
This is to the loser who's accusing Gatton of being "on welfare". Last time I checked, people who have to resort to being on welfare do not pay taxes. Right? Well, for somebody who's "on welfare" according to you, she sure cares an awful lot about how her tax dollars (and mine) are spent. Now, you, on the other hand, seem rather flippant and relaxed about how our taxes are spent. So maybe you're the one on some kind of "welfare".
Hell, Jamie Gatton should be given a bonus or cash award from the town. While the tax and spenders, Erskine Smith, Mayor Thunberg and Frank Rader are busy giving away our hardearned taxes and giving each other raises for a job poorly done, she's out there busy getting it back for us (remember the $300,000 or so that Thunberg was trying to give away to the SICDC?) or at least letting us know they're giving it away. Give that woman the keys to the city!
"At the same time, the town’s finance department, as of Friday, is looking for two different forensic accounting specialists to conduct the audit of Cops for Kids. The town as of Friday was still awaiting information from Cops for Kids’ bank accounts to submit to those accounting firms once they’ve been selected."
You have to know that even when you post anonymous, your IP is recorded on google's servers. How dumb can you be to try to suppress this crime. Which the feds can get.
Oh God. I broke Rule# 18-co84. Do not post song lyrics on such a serious blog. Please oh please not the Feds.
What, no more song lyrics to lull yourself into the happy little place? Oh well. Song's over and the police chief is STILL under investigation, SBI is STILL coming to town, the audit is STILL going to be done, and the D.A. is STILL on the case.
Oh great. Is this what we're paying Crone for? To sit at home and type up song lyrics? Get him off our payroll! NOW! Enough is enough!
It's a plane with no AVOD and no crew bunk for 10/18 CO84.
God you are dumb, now I know alot more about you, where is your police helicopter or aviation officers.
Anyone know?
Say something else sparky
Tic Toc
Continental OnePass Huh, oh yea, cant find you LOL
This is to easy, I going back to the law.
You have know idea WHAT or WHO I am, but you will when the time is right!
Tic Toc
Oh yea, sorry, last thing and then I am going back to the law,
Your going to have to give back those freq. flyer miles for all those trips you charged on Cops for kids, they belong to the good people of mooresville. I would say you have hundreds of thousands of them right sparky.
Someone else take this one.
Tic Toc
Ticky Tack. I must say you are one very weird and disturbed dude. You did exactly what that poster wanted you to do.......take his joke serious. I bet he is getting a good laugh at you. But I bet you are used to that.
Tic Toc's got a point. What's gonna happen with those frequent flyer miles? There's no telling how Crone's been milking the system. Boy, I bet him and his cohorts are fit to be tied. Their heffer done gone dry...How'll they explain to the wife that they can't go on that nice little vacation or can't go out to that nice little restaurant? Mercy me...
Its not a joke until you prove it otherwise, that is how an investigation works. Plus, that was by the seat of my pants, I am wrong about the police helicopter, but not about the freq flyer program.
Tic Toc
People dont make up random combinations of letters and numbers that are also a code for a freq flyer program. The odds of hitting it are astronimical.
Do the right thig and turn yourself in if you are Crone as I already suspect.
Quit trying to backtrack, it wont work with me.
Tic Toc
Keep snippin' at his heels Tic Toc. You got him right where you want him.
Laffy Taffy, are you allowed out in public without a helmet?
Put Crone out of his misery. Give him his walking papers, discipline Erskin Smith and let's move on already...
I want to tell G.G Allin and the people of this board that I was wrong about him, head to tow, he is not even close to crone.
I made a mistake, so I am sorry for that. But you did lead me down the road of Freq. Flyer Miles. and that is a good thing. But this is why I stick with laws, normally. I spoke while upset, never a good idea.
Thats why I tell people to pick apart the laws I post that Crone broke and the crimes I say he committed.
If you are who I think you are now, nice tat, very unique and I hope you finish your degree. But then I could be wrong again. Either way, your not crone.
In the future I will try to not lash out and I hope you continue to speak your mind no matter where you stand on the issue of Crone.
Tic Toc
I watched a clip last night about Crone and Cops for Kids. Crone looked so shifty. It was embarrassing listening to the report. I feel like somehow we're all somehow responsible, myself included, for having let this get this far.
Profile of blog poster G. G. Allin, Ink/Pen Guy/ Bic including pictures.
Mitchell Community College Fool
Seeking Degree in Religion. Unbelievable Fool
Age 23 Child Fool
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=252085703
Photo of G G Allin
Copy and Paste to address bar / click enter you wont believe your eyes
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=252085703&albumID=482011&imageID=3894970#a=482011&i=3894979
Last one just in case you see him around town
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=252085703&albumID=702063&imageID=4740044
I know what your thinking Sparky, I'll just take the pictures and info down but it is to late, already made copies of your site and have put them in an email with all the BS you are saying to send to all your closest friends and faculty on campus, (well, truth be told, everyone one campus I am sure I will hit a professor o or two of yours) and pulled email address to a database to make it a one click shot or would you like to say something else to me.
Are we done?
Feel free to state your opinions but anything else and I will exercise my right to free speech with your own words.
That feeling you are getting right now in the pit of your stomach should tell you that you are on the wrong side of this thing.
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