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Tuesday, November 18, 2008

Corporate welfare? So what?

If “corporate welfare” results in community investments, does that mitigate the “welfare” component? Are there different degrees of “corporate welfare”? If a corporation, in a time of economic recession, can bolster a community’s tax base – if it can add jobs to the local economy – what would it be worth to that community? What kind of a price tag would we put on that?

The current credit squeeze has hurt developers’ ability to move forward on their projects. Banks are not providing large commercial construction loans. But commercial developers want to continue building even during the recession – and it’s important that they’re allowed to do so. Why? Because in a time of recession, commercial development can add much-needed revenue and jobs to the local economy.

But without the ability to secure construction loans, how can developers move forward?

As of Aug. 3, they can ask that their land is designated a “special assessment district” (SAD), which essentially means that the municipality in which the development is situated will back the issuance of bonds to pay for the development’s infrastructure costs.

There’s still a lot of confusion about the state legislation, and rightfully so. The law is only a few months old, and the N.C. General Assembly did not include “protocols” in the legislation. Essentially, that means that those protocols have to be invented the first time the legislation is taken for a spin.

And that’s what is happening right now in Iredell County. Developers of Langtree at the Lake – the $800 million upscale mixed-use development in Mt. Mourne – have asked county commissioners to issue up to $46 million in bonds to install infrastructure at the southern Iredell development.

The request sent up red flags to folks who are fundamentally against government involving itself in private business. Others may have found the proposal questionable due simply to unfamiliarity with the new law.

So what’s it all about? Who’s at risk? What’s the risk specifically to the county? Who’s responsible for repayment if Langtree developers, or the “benefitted properties” within the development, miss a payment or fold altogether?

Let’s start with the problem: If developers are in the beginning stages of their projects – i.e. the “horizontal development,” or the grading/infrastructure stage – they could technically go to banks to request loans. But people want to buy buildings, not sewer lines, and banks cannot generate money from properties until the development “goes vertical” (i.e. buildings are built and ready to close), said David Parker, attorney and partner of Langtree at the Lake. The banks, therefore, may agree to lend the money – but only a certain percentage of every dollar, and a much lower percentage right now (about 50 cents per dollar), due to the recession, than in stable economic times (at least 80 cents per dollar).

The SADs allow developers to ask municipal governments to issue bonds for infrastructure costs. The bonds, in turn, are sold, and the developers’ properties are put up as collateral; the requirement in most states with SADs is that the developers have a 3:1 ratio of land value to bond. The developers – and eventually the benefitted-property owners and merchants – repay the debt through property assessments.

“The county is not lending us a dime,” said Parker. “The benefitting business owners are borrowing the money from (bond buyers).” Langtree, he said, is simply “asking for the county’s blessing.”

The onus, then, is on the developer having in place accredited bond buyers, which Parker said are limited to either “qualified institutional buyers” and/or accredited investors across the country with a net worth in excess of a million dollars, excluding their primary residence.

Recognizing that municipalities would not want to secure bonds by using their taxing authority since only certain parts of the municipalities would benefit, the N.C. General Assembly agreed to make the bond buyers first in priority, even before the property’s mortgage holders and “vertical construction” lenders. The bond buyers are second only to the county’s property taxes and state/federal tax liens.

Why did the state create such a law? “Because it’s a good public purpose,” said Parker. “It creates sales-tax revenue, a heftier tax base and jobs.”

Will the developers benefit from the bond proceeds? Absolutely. But so will the state and the local economies. One key difference, however, is that the state and municipalities are not legally liable for the bonds. They have relatively little, if any, risk because the bonds are secured by the developers’ land – not the county.

As of 2002, the U.S. had 3,600 SADs. Florida is one state that has them, and Parker said it’s the one with the most safeguards in place. He said that’s why Langtree developers “modeled all of (their) findings – and all the information that will be submitted to the (N.C.) Local Government Commission” after the State of Florida.

When a SAD assessment payment has been missed in Florida, said Parker, the primary lender (typically a bank) covers the missed payment to avoid default. “The bank doesn’t want to have to come in on foreclosure and buy the whole bond,” said Parker, “because in that case, it only makes 80 cents per dollar.”

“For that reason,” he said, “it is impossible to sell the bonds without ‘vertical’ financing in place.”

Fortunately for Langtree, the developers have “loan commitment letters for further financing from lenders that understand that they may be in behind the Special Assessments and are comfortable with that,” Parker said.

In essence, the county, by approving the issuance of the bonds, would essentially help “legitimize” the bonds to bond buyers and bond underwriters, who determine whether the feasibility studies related to the bonds are legitimate.

The underwriters, said Parker, “are very sophisticated.” He said “there are only 5 to 10 underwriters in the country that underwrite these kinds of bonds, and they follow legislation like hawks on sparrows.”

Langtree’s underwriters, from Florida and Arkansas, have assured Langtree that “they already have buyers wanting to buy the first $20 million in bonds,” said Parker. The buyers, he said, “want the favorable tax treatment and like the security of the project.”

Langtree may adjust their request to the county from $46 million to $20 million, which would cover the entire first phase of development, said Parker. “We asked for the full project amount ($46 million) because several commissioners told us to ask for it all on the first hearing instead of coming back for each phase,” he said. “I, personally, would rather just ask for issuance for Phase 1 and then, if the credit market remains in its current funk, ask again if necessary for issuance for future phases.”

“All economic models of the depth and breadth of this recession show recovery within two years past our anticipated construction completion,” Parker said. If that’s the case, and if the county approves issuing $20 million in bonds now, then the developers could secure a private loan for the remaining $26 million a couple years from now. By then, the development would be “vertical” – or buildings would be built and ready to close – which means the banks could approve a better private loan.

An additional advantage of the bonds: With Iredell County’s consent, Langtree can capitalize interest payments for a two-year period after construction starts. Basically, that means that payments for the first two years past construction are included in the loan amount.

Langtree’s infrastructure installation could be complete within three months after the bonds are issued because construction companies, due to the economy and lack of work, are able to complete jobs quicker and under-budget. And theoretically, Langtree’s first condominium tower will reach build-out 14 months after construction on it begins, while the development’s office tower will take 12 months. So, construction on Langtree’s first phase could be complete at the end of the two-year period of capitalized interest payments – which is the same time that the economy is projected to pull out of its current slump.

Langtree’s condo tower, Parker said, is already 70 percent pre-sold, and the retail tower is 50 percent pre-leased. “So when the two years is up,” Parker said, “we’ll be well underway with the ability to make those payments (on the bonds).”

Parker said Langtree had to have the pre-sale and pre-lease commitments before it was able to secure commitments from its “vertical construction lenders,” or people who intend to lend money for the development’s buildings.

And in order to have bond underwriters sell bonds, Parker added, “vertical lenders have to be in place.”

The vertical lenders, who will eventually buy the bonds from the folks who originally purchase them, are actually at the highest risk in a bond financing arrangement, said Parker, because they have accepted 50 cents per dollar from the bonds, putting them in second place to the bond buyer, who will receive 80 cents per dollar.

“Langtree’s lenders on vertical construction know all of this and are still willing to fund us because they believe in us,” said Parker. “They are willing to pay the bond even if they don’t make anything back on the loan.”

If it all falls apart, said Parker, the bond buyers “come after our development. The risk is only to us. We hold all the risk.”

So, why does Langtree need the county? Iredell, by issuing the bonds, would help legitimize the bonds to buyers and underwriters. But even more than that, the developers need a stamp of approval from the LGC, which has credibility with bond buyers and underwriters throughout the country. The LGC’s job is to protect the issuing municipalities by determining whether the bonds will perform as they should.

Langtree and Iredell County must approach the LGC with fine details of the financing proposal. The LGC will pour over the information and ultimately render an opinion on whether the county should issue the bonds. The county can then base its decision on the LGC’s recommendation.

“Iredell County is not being asked to lend a private developer anything and is not at risk in authorizing the bonds,” said Parker. “South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama and most of the other southern states have these bond facilities in place, and they have worked without any peril to the counties.”

If Iredell County does not issue the bonds, Parker said that Langtree will continue building its development, but it will likely wait for at least a year. Why? Because the developers would rather wait until the recession is over than move forward with a 50-cents-on-the-dollar loan.

Some folks have expressed concerns that the bonds would simply be cheaper for the developers, thereby allowing them to make more money. Parker said that isn’t so. In fact, he said the interest rate that Langtree would pay on the bonds would be in the range of what private equity lenders are charging (8-9 percent). Since the bonds would not be backed by the county, the developers would not receive the cheaper “general obligation” rates, which are currently in the 4-5 percent range.

The difference between the bonds and a private loan is that the bond moneys are available now, the pay-back term is up to 30 years, and the bonds feature some favorable tax advantages and better security for the bond buyers. “There are no cost savings to the developer, and specifically none to Langtree,” Parker said.

“The problems in the economy right now are related to the lack of credit, not interest rates,” he added. “Banks simply will not make any large commercial loans until the defaults in home mortgages and credit-card-backed obligations have run through the system, which may take another year.

“We would like to build during this recession if at all possible,” he said. “In short, bond money is available today – bank loans are not. Employment during a recession requires credit. The bonds can provide that.”

Another concern is that the state legislation opens the door for every developer in the state to request bonds. But Parker said the legal fees alone for the SAD financing will top $20,000; in Langtree’s case, the developers also plan to pay the county’s associated legal fees. The underwriter fees are also very expensive, he said. The underwriter and legal fees alone would eat into all the potential profit of smaller projects. Additionally, the bonds likely wouldn’t sell on smaller projects because they wouldn’t perform in the current economy, and smaller projects aren’t as likely to be able to secure both infrastructure and vertical loans.

“Only 4- and 5-star developments will even look at this (funding option),” Parker said.

So, what’s the bottom line? The bond proceeds would no doubt help Langtree at the Lake by enabling the developers to continue building through the recession, when prices are cheaper and workers are more readily available. And the sooner that Langtree can “go vertical,” the sooner it can start making money.

And make no mistake about it, Parker said: “I share your suspicion and leeriness of developers.” After all he said, “They’re always in it for themselves.”

But there’s a good side even to developers, and as long as “the better angles of the developer’s nature are consistently heard by the developer and the public,” then a development can benefit both, Parker said.

Look no further than Lowe’s corporate headquarters in Mooresville: The town offered it tax incentives to locate here. But the corporation has also generously donated millions of dollars to the community, including sinking millions to build the YMCA and to expand the Mooresville Public Library.

Langtree’s more immediate contribution would be providing jobs to labor workers in desperate need of work right now. The development would also provide useful tax revenue to the county and to the Town of Mooresville. Think about this: Two years ago, Iredell County received approximately $20,000 a year in taxes for the properties now owned by Langtree. Now, the county makes about $170,000. With the addition of infrastructure alone, those annual property taxes would jump to $500,000 a year.

At the end of the day, it isn’t the developer’s job to base its decisions on the economic benefits that its project would have on a community. That’s the job of our public officials; in this particular case, the Iredell County Board of Commissioners.

It’s no secret that Langtree won’t pull the plug on its development if the county decides not to issue the bonds. But the developers have said that they will wait to move forward until the economy pulls out of its current slump.

To the county, is it worth the wait?

Langtree expects to appear before county commissioners today with a development agreement. Commissioners have voted to conduct their “due diligence” on the project before reconsidering a request from Langtree to approve a “final assessment resolution.”

30 comments:

Anonymous said...

Another fantastic article. If only my community had a Gatton Report.

Anonymous said...

I couldn't agree more.

David Goebelt said...

As long as there is absolutely no financial risk to the town it seems like a no brainer. While I am an advocate of minimal government intervention, we would all benefit from increased capital investment in our community to help us ride out the recession.

However, it the town bears no risk in issuing the bonds, I don’t see the advantage to bond holders or why that should reassure them if the town approves. Any town welcomes development with open arms. If the private money is there, then it will be there with or without the approval of the town. My unsubstantiated suspicion is that these bonds will be sold to less savvy investors as a municipal infrastructure bond backed by tax dollars when, in fact, they are not.

Anonymous said...

Wow....so our government is investing in private business again (cable-gate)....and if it fails who gets the bill? oh yeah...that'd be US.

Anonymous said...

You will notice that the developers create a separate LLC with each project and, more importantly, the developer NEVER invests his personal funds in a project, seems to be a low level of confidence in their projects. The developers lose nothing if the project fails, the "investers" are the losers, in this case the bond holders.

Anonymous said...

so dont buy a bond.i think in this case were talking about whether the taxpayers are at risk.i dont care whether the developers or bond people lose their ass.as long as if the project fails it comes out of the bond peoples pocket and not mine then i give this development two thumbs up.go for it.

Anonymous said...

As much as I HATED Cable-Gate (and still do) I don't think this is the same at all. First of all The ToM issued DOUBLE the amount of bonds ($93M) as the MAXIMUM amount that Langtree would ask for ($46M) to buy a broken down cable system. Second, at least from how I'm reading the article, the county would not be paying for the bonds. Investors buy the bonds for this development. With Cable-Gate, our illustrious leaders admitted that the system would be paid for by subscribers but the taxpayers would have to chip in if it went belly up which means that the subscribers (and then the taxpayers) are who purchased the cable "bonds". That's how I see it.

Anonymous said...

Excuse me but do we honestly believe the Billionaire/ Millionaire developers will stop construction? Personally, I do not. The developers will only begin to make money on their already substantial investments when the development goes vertical and get occupied. The longer they wait, the less profit they will make. So the value equation for the Developer is do I delay and not make money or do I go ahead and make money sooner? Which do you think they will do?

Make no mistake about this deal; it is a wolf in a sheep's clothing. All those good and holy things, increased employment, increased tax base, etc. will be accomplished regardless of whether Iredell issues these bonds or not. It is a shrewd psychological mind game the developers are playing and are they taking advantage the current economic situation. How many times will we hear that the Developers are here to help us and this won't cost you a penny!?

46 million dollars is chump change for Langtree. This has been touted as a 750 million dollar project. They could float their own Corporate bonds on the market, as most other Corporations do when they need to raise capital. Or they could privately finance this. So then, why do they need Iredell to bend over backwards to get this money?

Langtree has the resources to go forward without Government stepping in, so why are we even talking about this?

If Iredell gets something in return for this, like more open green spaces, enhanced water run-off treatment, etc. then it makes sense to provide assistance. But to provide this only because of threats from the Billionaire Developers to stop/ slow work that they themselves can provide, is insane.

Anonymous said...

It's not just because of "threats". It's because of veiled promises made between cronies. Once again, these people are trying to get us to foot their expensive "friendships". Except this time they've been caught at it before it actually happened.

Anonymous said...

5:41 they will, most likely, get the financing. Look at the current political environment. If the Commissioners vote against it, they will be accused of being anti-job creation, anti- tax base creation, anti- everything!

The Langtree consortium will simply have to issue a press release saying they were impeded by the IC Commissioners. Unless the Commissioners come up with a legal reason not to do this, they will OK it.

Based upon the close relationships between the Developers and Government here, IC will not dig into the law books too hard for any reason to not grant the request.

Jamie has done us a real service to air this information and maybe a better sevice to see how Parker makes this appear as a win for IC (last Gatton article).

The best we can hope for is that IC gets something substantial out of this besides the employment and tax base increases that they would have gotten anyway. Notice how they mention what Lowes has contributed, without mentioning anything Langtee will do? They are essentially piggy backing on the good name and works of a multi-billion dollar Corporation without committing to anything themselves! Just vague references to how good it is to have Langtree and all the good that will (may?) come.

These Langtree boys are smooth and have done their homework and are heavily financed. These bonds will be wisked through the halls of IC and in place shortly and the gold tooth Developers will have won another victory.

Anonymous said...

Time will tell. Time will tell. Nothing is written in stone.

Anonymous said...

There are many existing industries and businesses in Iredell County that could use an infusion of cash to help them keep employees working through the current economic situation. Why are the Howards more deserving than these other people that have been contributing to the community and paying their taxes? Government is supposed to be equal and fair to all. This proposed bond issue is not. If it was, a program like this would be available to everyone.

Anonymous said...

The Howards and their Billionaire backers are more worthy because they have political influence! Plain and simple!

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't call it political influence anymore. With something like this blog around, it's more like a political liability. Nothing is like it used to be. There are so many eyes on something like this now. For anyone WHO'S UP TO NO GOOD, it's going to be a lose-lose proposition. If they don't get their way they lose. If they get their way they still lose because they will have been exposed for what they are, influence peddlers and power abusers.

Anonymous said...

4:35 If they get what they want, they could care less what the Bloggers think of them. They will simply move on and enjoy a glass of Champagne in their limos! It is the way of Billionaires. Do you think Hammond will care one iota what we think about him? Not likely. Does Tice care we know she is a Howard supporter to the 'nth degree? Not likely. She'll retire and probably get a job with Howard at Langtree! Does Rick Howard care? Not in the least!

The only time this blog will become truly effective is when we citizens mobilize and protest, as was done with CFK. Or make these linkages know to the general public through newspaper articles, investigative reports or criminal probes. Anything that might public tarnish the image is the only, true way to ahve an impact.

Sorry to be so negative, but alas, it is the way of Big Business.

Anonymous said...

Exposure is always the first step. Without it there can be no change. In today's technology age, one click of the mouse can send that exposure to countless destinations. Ms. Gatton, keep doing what you're doing. Expose. Expose. Expose.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone realized that we are in an unprecedented economic times? Ms. Gatton, continue your good work. Let's not loose focus on the reality by chanting politics and social rhetoric. I want to express my support to the Howard's and any business owners willing to risk and expand in this market. I applaud their effort to bring jobs to the county.

Anonymous said...

I agree and I do 8:56. When thinking of this, what has IC given to businesses to keep aircraft at Statesville, companies who never opened their doors (RF Mico), Pratt Industries, Lowes; This list could go on and on and on.
These guys are asking for something with no risk to Iredell. What is going on here? I just made a decision to relocate my business to Iredell county. Reading this, the decisions IC leaders are making make me question my decision. I should have located it in Cabarrus.

Anonymous said...

9:08, If you need government help to run your business, I don't think you should go to Cabarrus County. Russia, China, and North Korea come to mind, but there are strings attached, and the bread lines are a little bit long.

Anonymous said...

I don't need government to interfere in my business, nor do I believe they should interfere in private industry. I am a free market conservative. 10:05, It is obvious that you do not understand this discussion, how to create jobs, run a business, or discuss economic policy.

Social political rhetoric doesn't create jobs! Action and industry create jobs and build on the American Dream.

Anonymous said...

12:08, this is pure socialism. The ICC is going to put 46 million in debt on THEIR balance sheet (read the legislation), which makes it the obligation of taxpayers. Then they are going to loan that money to a private firm. If every firm in Iredell County borrowed from the county, there would be billions of dollars in loans for the county to collect. That means that the government is in charge of who gets to go into business and who doesn't. Only if you are a friend of the Party should you expect to get any money for your business, comrade; and then, as I mentioned before, there are strings...

Also, if you want to attack me, instead of my comments, you better bring more than what you have so far. I'll amend your last two sentences, and restate them thusly: GOVERNMENT LENDING doesn't create jobs! Action BY industry (not government) creates jobs and builds on the American Dream.

Anonymous said...

What the hell is "social political rhetoric"? A certain person has used it several times here. Is that another way of saying "statements that call government and its cronies on their B.S."? If so, get used to it pal. The days of backdoor deals going through nice and smooth without so much as a hickup are over. Now you pay for your fun. Oops I'm sorry. Did I just used "social politica rhetoric"?

and 2:02, you're right on about this being nothing but socialism (for the rich at that!) made to look like a legitimate deal.

Anonymous said...

2:02 unfortunately you couldn't be more WRONG. The funds do NOT go on the ICC balance sheet. It's doesn't affect the County's bond rating, or ability to obtain future bonds. I've read the legislation, NO Liability to the ICC. Liability only to those holding the Bonds (not ICC).

I'm not sure if you've noticed but the economy isn't doing so well. The ability to obtain financing is extremely difficult/impossible for a project like this.

I'm just happy they havn't called it quits on the entire project. They're still trying to make this project happen.

But thats ok, lets all continue to curse those developers for being so evil.

P.S. Don't forget to swing by the grocery store and the mall for your christmas gifts and pickup your drycleaning. All provided by those evil developers.

Anonymous said...

Hey Free Market Conservative! While I appreciate your input, I do not agree with you and will refrain from calling you a Socialist, which I am quite sure you are not!

There are many deserving businesses in the current economic environment that need help. The Race industry, for instance, in Iredell is laying people off as we type, as I am sure others are as well. What about our fragile, almost non-existent furniture industry? Are they less deserving than those who have the political clout to ask for 46 Million?

Langtree will create jobs and if you take the time to peruse the above comments, you will see that fact stated many times. The theme of this discussion is that IC does not need to raise this Bond money for businesses that already has enough cash on hand. Remember, this is a $750 Million dollar development, which had secured thier finances long ago. At the Langtree announcement, Bankers were handing out Business Cards to the Howards like they were Halloween night candy! I was there and I witnessed it.

If IC is to float a Bond, it should be for those businesses that desparately need help, not for those that are financially healthy and also have political influence (Langtree).

Don't you agree with that?

Political influence should not be the gating factor as to who gets the money and how doesn't. As a business owner, don't you want equal access to assistance?

This is not social rhetoric; this is exposing the underbelly of the network that has been in existence in our Governmental fabric for years.

There are no scare tactics here; the Langtree project will go forward, so your concern about job creation is unfounded. You should, however, be concerned about fairness and honesty!

Anonymous said...

I don't have any problem with developers. I appreciate what they bring with them and what they can do for a community. It's the cronyism I can do without. Unfortunately, in this case there seems to be a little of that, and that makes people suspicious. It doesn't help that this story broke right on the heel of the story about possible cronyism in the land deal for the landfill. Right now the county commissioners have some fence mending to do with the public and there's just no getting around that.

Anonymous said...

What is the big deal really about? Unless I am misinformed, this is simply another way of "Langtree" getting financing. I am sure some of the backers have plenty of funds. I also am sure some of the "Langtree" group are friends or at least very friendly with the "commish board". That to me is only logical and I think they should be. But if you would do a little research or at least talk to some who have, David Parker is definately not a friend or even friendly to the current "commish board"
I agree it looks or sounds fishy because of the version of the "Landfill Deal" well actually most of your interpretations of the "Landfill deal". But unless one of you that has more knowledge with honest research than I do .... this is simply a way for the group to get some real cheap financing. Developers actually use very little of their own money when doing a progect of any magnatude. They are, in my opinion, being wise to try this option as it is more simple and cheaper. I for one think we should (assuming their is no liability to the tax payers in any way) help them and anyone else that applies for such a request. Remember the state passed this law as a way local governments could give their local economies a shot in the arm if really a worthwhile project came to them. My only regret about it, I did not have enough money to get involved with them (if that oppourtunity existed).

Anonymous said...

It looks to me like the "big deal" is preferential treatment. I too agree that the commissioners look doubly fishy right after I read about the other deal about the golf course land.

Anonymous said...

From the start this whole project has reeked of cronyism.

1. The CEO of the development, Brad Howard, twice ran for a seat on the County Board.
2. Head Commissioner of Iredell County, Sara Tice, is neighbors and good friends with the Developer.
3. Mooresville Board members make zoning and other major decisions on this property, yet these same board members are not the elected representatives of local residents. Technically the Langree area is outside of city limits, yet the town has made an exception for this one project.
4. Mooresville's own planning staff recommended that the project be scaled back, yet the board approved it unanimously.
5. Mooresville's town manager during all major decisions regarding this project (Jamie Justice), was later fired for several ethical controversies.

Anything to do with this project is suspect, and this latest bond referendum is just another example.
Let these bastards use their own damn money.

Anonymous said...

Dont forget that Chris Carney and the Howards offices are in the same building or next door to one another.....

Anonymous said...

8:51 PM
All excellent points! Might I add a few more?

1. The traffic impact analysis was rushed through the Town with just a cursory review because the Town Board didn't want to delay the project. This project will add over 24,000 automobile trips to the streets surrounding Langtree. (21 (Exit 33 interchange), 115, Williamson, Langtree, Alcove) and the TIA took only a few days? Justice and Thunberg bent over backwards because as the Major stated "time is money for the developers" or words very, very close to that!

2. The developer's Attorney Parker and Howard mentioned a few times that J. Q. Hammond would back out if the Town took too long to review the project. This threat was taken very seriously by the Board and forced the Planning group to clear their desks and only work on Langtree.

3. The Developers and their cadre of support personnel presented their plans at the Town Board meeting, with no regard to time limits or detail of subject matter. They could ramble on and on without limit, frequently joking with the Board. When the people most affected by this project were given the opportunity to express their opinion (the residents of the Langtree area), they were limited to an exact 3 minutes given extremely strict and limiting topic guidelines and in many instances were cut off abruptly and rudely by the Mayor. Statements made by the residents were entered into the record but none of their concerns were "heard".

4.Very little was asked (and received) by the Town in terms of artery and infrastructure improvements. Shouldn't an environment impact study been done on land bordering Lake Norman? How does the marina plan to capture chemicals from entering into our water system? How were storm drains from the parking lots to be routed, into the Lake or into the waste management system? And many more. This was an opportunity for the Town to make this project a model for this century and they blew it! There was little effort by the Town to "burden" the developers with necessary improvements or questions.

5. Our Mayor (as well as Tice and Kay) endorsed this project publically (TV and print)even before the details were presented to the Planning group. Why? The Million Dollar question!

I've seen many Town Board hearings (here and elsewhere) and have never seen a debacle like this! There was more thought process put into whether a dog house encroached on the property line than what went into this massive project.

Our Town was sold to the Developers by a weak kneed Town Board. They stoodd up for the Developers and thumbed their noses at the People.

"Anything to do with this project is suspect, and this latest bond referendum is just another example. Let these bastards use their own damn money."

Agreed!